Initially the whole public service were given an undertaking by the politicians that their jobs were secure, so there wasn’t going to be anybody losing their jobs from the old public service, including the military. So when we moved to democracy the security forces were assured of their position until they were pensioned off. As a result the structure was necessarily going to be bloated. It was not going to be efficient as it was going to include people who were not in the initial design, like MK, like the whole of the SADF, like the TBVC forces. It was going to be a bloated force which we were going to manage down through natural attrition and other ways . That is where the unhappiness came about. Hence we decided on the kind of strategic interventions that we had to make at the position level: who was going to be responsible for what?