744 - Frene Ginwala, interview by Tony Trew, Johannesburg, 12 September 2014.

Another thing, people used to come late even into NEC meetings. The first item on the agenda is always the president’s report. He said ‘The doors must be closed until I finish speaking, and none of you must tell those who come late what I have said’.

Again, he respected people but he expected respect, it was a two-way thing, and people until then I think had never realised that by coming late they were disrespecting. He used to lock the doors while he was speaking.